Join Rishad Usmani in a profound conversation with engineer and investor Ronjon Nag as they explore the very fabric of our existence in an age of rapidly advancing AI. This episode ventures far beyond typical tech talk, diving deep into philosophical questions about what constitutes reality, the elusive nature of consciousness (both human and artificial), the future of work in an era of abundance, and the persistent human drive for tribalism.

Ronjon Nag, with his pragmatic engineering perspective, offers fascinating insights into how AI is not just changing technology, but reshaping our understanding of ourselves and the world around us. From the potential for an "aging vaccine" to the unsettling implications of a world where digital truth is easily manipulated, this episode will challenge your perceptions and spark new ways of thinking about humanity's trajectory.

0:00:02 Introduction: Defining Reality

0:00:37 Ron John's Engineering Perspective on Reality

0:01:32 Different Realities: Sleep and Daydreaming

0:02:44 How Consciousness Fits into Reality

0:03:51 Stanislas Dehaene's Three Types of Consciousness

0:04:53 Roger Penrose's Quantum Consciousness

0:06:44 Can Machines Possess Consciousness?

0:08:18 Comparing Human and Computer Consciousness

0:10:07 The Turing Test and Self-Awareness

0:11:30 The Artificial Consciousness Test

0:16:22 Defining Life Beyond the Human Lens

0:19:25 Exploring Different Types of Intelligence (IQ, EQ, AQ, CQ, FQ)

0:25:57 Do Humans Have Free Will?

0:31:01 The Inherent Human Need to Form Tribes

0:41:01 The Future: Companies vs. Countries

0:47:03 Will AI Usher in an Era of Abundance?

0:55:09 Digital Reality and the Concept of Truth

1:03:07 Venture Capital: Structure vs. Intuition in Investing

1:07:07 The Moonshot Idea: A Vaccine for Aging

1:15:58 Advice for Your Younger Self

In this episode, you will learn:

How engineers define reality: Beyond subjective perception, exploring the physical world and mental projections.

The elusive nature of consciousness: A deep dive into different theories, from autonomous processes to quantum forces, and whether AI can ever truly achieve it.

The "Artificial Consciousness Test": What it would take for a machine to truly feel and understand human concepts.

The future of work in an AI-powered world: Will AI usher in an era of abundance where humans no longer need to work? The "lump of labor" theory vs. insatiable human desires.

Human tribalism in a globalized world: Why do we cling to groups, and how might companies become the new "tribes" in a shifting power dynamic?

The changing nature of truth: How AI's ability to create deepfakes and fake information threatens digital reality and elevates the importance of trusted curators and physical interaction.

Moonshot thinking in longevity science: Ronjon's groundbreaking work on an mRNA "aging vaccine" and pan-cancer solutions.

Guest Bio:
Ronjon Nag is an accomplished engineer, inventor, and investor, with a deep expertise in AI, longevity sciences, and venture capital. His pragmatic approach to complex problems offers a unique lens through which to view the future of technology and its impact on humanity.

Listen on: https://www.learningwithrishad.com/

Connect with Rishad Usmani: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishadusmani/
Connect with Ronjon Nag: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronjonnag/